{"id":1595,"date":"2008-05-13T03:08:05","date_gmt":"2008-05-13T00:08:05","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.ticu.lv\/?p=1595"},"modified":"2008-08-30T23:18:20","modified_gmt":"2008-08-30T20:18:20","slug":"macitaji-un-draudzes-starp-piragiem-un-patagu","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.ticu.lv\/?p=1595","title":{"rendered":"M\u0101c\u012bt\u0101ji un draudzes starp p\u012br\u0101giem un p\u0101tagu"},"content":{"rendered":"

macitaju_kalposanas_noteikumi.projekts01.04.2008.doc<\/a> \u2013 KLIK\u0160\u0136INI (download) & LASI<\/span>
\nmateri\u0101ls no publiski pieejam\u0101: http:\/\/www.lelb.lv\/lv\/?ct=draudzu_attiistiiba<\/p>\n

LELB Virsvalde steidz\u012bgi gatavojas \u0101rk\u0101rtas 24. Sinodei (no gr. val. – kopsan\u0101ksmei).
\nIzejot no nesen pie\u0146emt\u0101s Satversmes lo\u0123ikas, t\u0101 p\u0113c b\u016bt\u012bbas vairs nav uzskat\u0101ma par augst\u0101ko LELB l\u0113m\u0113jinstit\u016bciju, jo tai virsuzraugs <\/em>k\u013cuvusi B\u012bskapu kol\u0113\u0123ija, kura var atgriezt Sinodes l\u0113mumus atk\u0101rtotai skat\u012b\u0161anai. Viss jau, k\u0101 alla\u017e, bija un tiek labi dom\u0101ts…<\/p>\n

\u0160aj\u0101 reiz\u0113 atkal Sinodes pie\u0146emtajiem l\u0113mumiem b\u016btu j\u0101pal\u012bdz garant\u0113t Bazn\u012bcas vien\u012bbu un citus c\u0113lus m\u0113r\u0137us. Tom\u0113r, run\u0101jot saprotam\u0101k un piezem\u0113t\u0101kos v\u0101rdos \u2013 j\u0101izved LELB no tuvu draudo\u0161\u0101 ekonomisk\u0101 bankrota<\/span>. Vai tas neb\u016bs par stipru teikts? N\u0113! To jau sev\u012b ar\u012b nes un ietver Sinodes rakturot\u0101jv\u0101rds \u2013 \u201c\u0101rk\u0101rt\u0113j\u0101\u201d. Jo visas galven\u0101s \u0161\u012bbr\u012b\u017ea Virsvaldes finansi\u0101l\u0101s iesp\u0113jas iepret\u012b t\u0101s algoto darbinieku sarakstiem ir nesp\u0113j\u012bgas jaun\u0101s v\u0113lmes piepild\u012bt. Ce\u013c\u0101 uz filigr\u0101no un l\u012bdz gal\u0113j\u012bbai sare\u017e\u0123\u012bti izstr\u0101d\u0101to administrat\u012bvo p\u0101rvaldes formu, aizmirsu\u0161ies pa\u0161i galvenie Bazn\u012bcas darba r\u016b\u0137i \u2013 m\u0101c\u012bt\u0101ji<\/strong>.<\/p>\n

No otras puses \u2013 nav jau slikti, ka l\u012bdz \u0161im Virsvalde var\u0113jusi izv\u0113rsties un pa labi un pa kreisi kritiz\u0113jusi t.s. maz\u0101k\u0101s LELB vien\u012bbas (skat Satversmi) – draudzes<\/strong> un to ganus<\/strong>. Tos p\u0113d\u0113jos gan pa \u0161iem gadiem kaut k\u0101 n\u0101c\u0101s uztur\u0113t draudz\u0113m, kam\u0113r LELB R\u012bg\u0101 p\u0101rdoto \u012bpa\u0161umu nauda ir gandr\u012bz piln\u012bgi izt\u0113r\u0113ta Virsvaldes uztur\u0113\u0161anai. Savdab\u012bgi, ka vairums Latvijas mazpils\u0113tas iedz\u012bvot\u0101ju vismaz v\u0101rda p\u0113c zin\u0101s nosaukt viet\u0113jo m\u0101c\u012bt\u0101ju vai pat aprakst\u012bs vi\u0146a izskatu, kam\u0113r maz ticams, ka zin\u0101s, k\u0101 izskat\u0101s k\u0101ds no n-to komisiju un apak\u0161komisiju vad\u012bt\u0101jiem un kur nu v\u0113l to locek\u013ciem.<\/p>\n

Da\u017ei mani (m\u0101c. V.Kor\u0101\u013ca) paredz\u0113jumi par \u0161o gaid\u0101mo Sinodi:<\/span>
\n* Sinodes atkl\u0101\u0161ana <\/strong>notiks ar spo\u017eiem un celsm\u012bgiem apsveikumu tekstiem no partnerbazn\u012bcu puses.<\/p>\n

* Zi\u0146ojumos netiks ietverts Virsvaldes detaliz\u0113ts bud\u017eets. Visiem l\u012bdzek\u013ciem (k\u0101 arvien) tiks vaiman\u0101ts par m\u0101c\u012bt\u0101ju mazo atalgojumu, bet NETIKS atkl\u0101ts Virsvaldes amatpersonu <\/strong>un tehnisko darbinieku algas<\/strong>, piemaksas u.c, aizbildinoties ar da\u017e\u0101d\u0101m likuma norm\u0101m, \u0113tiku etc. Neap\u0161aub\u0101mi tas izsauks karstas debates un visp\u0101r\u0113ju neapmierin\u0101t\u012bbu z\u0101l\u0113 s\u0113do\u0161ajos, jo m\u0101c\u012bt\u0101ji <\/strong>par sevi inform\u0101ciju ir godpr\u0101t\u012bgi sniegu\u0161i. Pie kam, v\u0113l par savu \u0123imenes locek\u013cu ien\u0101kumiem un to izcelsmi, kas ir absurds no juridisk\u0101 viedok\u013ca \u2013 to visp\u0101r darba dev\u0113js nav ties\u012bgs jaut\u0101t vai kl\u0101t skait\u012bt darbinieka atalgojumam.<\/p>\n

* Zem LELB gar\u012bdznieku atalgojuma un soci\u0101l\u0101 nodro\u0161in\u0101juma pl\u0101na m\u0113\u0123in\u0101s iedab\u016bt p\u0113c iesp\u0113jas vair\u0101k personu<\/strong>, kuru pirm\u0101\/ galven\u0101 darbavieta nav draudze <\/strong>(Lutera akad\u0113mijas m\u0101c\u012bbsp\u0113kus, mision\u0101rus utt..) Tam par godu iecer\u0113ts p.9 sinodes darba k\u0101rt\u012bb\u0101, kad jau b\u016bs pie\u0146emts \u0161is attiec\u012bgais dokuments.<\/p>\n

Otraj\u0101 Sinodes da\u013c\u0101:
\n* LELB gar\u012bdznieku atalgojuma un soci\u0101l\u0101 nodro\u0161in\u0101juma pl\u0101ns ir tie\u0161i pirms pusdienlaika un par to vajadz\u012bgaj\u0101 redakcij\u0101<\/em> b\u016bs spiesti \u0101tri nobalsot (iepriek\u0161\u0113jo gadu sino\u017eu trad\u012bcija <\/em>to labi r\u0101da).<\/p>\n

* Dienas otraj\u0101 pus\u0113, skatot m\u0101c\u012bt\u0101ju pien\u0101kumu aprakstu (skat. virs \u0161\u012b raksta WORD form\u0101t\u0101), daudzi b\u016bs paman\u012bju\u0161i, ka m\u0101c\u012bt\u0101ju pl\u0101notie pien\u0101kumi: ties\u012bbas= 10:1<\/strong>. Tur ies v\u0113traini, jo attapsies, ka pien\u0101kumus apraksto\u0161ais dokuments l\u012bdzin\u0101s armijas reglamentam<\/em> vai komandantstundas k\u0101rt\u012bbas noteikumiem<\/em> kar\u0101. Da\u017ei sinod\u0101lis s\u0101ks piepras\u012bt Virsvaldes darbinieku pien\u0101kumu un \u0113tisko normu aprakstu.<\/p>\n

* M\u0101c\u012bt\u0101jiem ar\u012b ilgu laiku p\u0113c Sinodes neb\u016bs tik lielas d\u016b\u0161as, lai dibin\u0101tu arodbiedr\u012bbu<\/strong> un p\u0113c b\u016bt\u012bbas aizst\u0101v\u0113tu savas darba ties\u012bbas, k\u0101 ar\u012b pieprasot sl\u0113gt korektus darba l\u012bgumus. (I Latvijas br\u012bvalsts laik\u0101 ar m\u0101c\u012bt\u0101ju darba ties\u012bb\u0101m bija cit\u0101d\u0101k…)
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\n* LELB draud\u017eu nolikums<\/strong> b\u016bs k\u0101 juridisks dokuments, at\u0146emot draudz\u0113m jebk\u0101das suver\u0113nas ties\u012bbas r\u012bkoties ar savu \u012bpa\u0161umu u.c. svar\u012bgos l\u0113mumos, pieska\u0146ojot t\u0101 lo\u0123iku jau eso\u0161ajai LELB Satvarsmei (nedal\u012btai Virsvaldes varai p\u0101r vis\u0101m liet\u0101m).<\/p>\n

* Ne maz\u0101k interesanti b\u016bs, cil\u0101jot n\u0101kamos jaut\u0101jumus, jo runa ta\u010du par naudu<\/strong>! LELB teolo\u0123isk\u0101s nost\u0101dnes ziedojumu liet\u0101s (k\u0101di ir pieejami cit\u0101s konfesij\u0101s – Desmit\u0101s tiesas u.c.) l\u012bdz \u0101rk\u0101rtas Sinodei un t\u0101s norises dien\u0101 rakstisk\u0101 veid\u0101 neb\u016bs pieejami. Atg\u0101din\u0101s, ka par to jau ir rakst\u012bts B\u012bbel\u0113 un katrs r\u012bkojas p\u0113c savas sirdsapzi\u0146as. T\u0101d\u0113\u013c tie nek\u013c\u016bs tik saisto\u0161i k\u0101 visvis\u0101di noteikumi <\/em>draudz\u0113m un m\u0101c\u012bt\u0101jiem. Ar\u012b par t\u0101m un tiem<\/em> jau ta\u010du nav rakst\u012bts B\u012bbel\u0113. Taj\u0101 ta\u010du viss ir rakst\u012bts…!<\/p>\n

* Neb\u016bs skat\u0101ms ar\u012b LELB l\u012bgums (vai t\u0101 nosl\u0113guma, t.i. balsojam\u0101 versija) ar Latvijas Valsti, jo tas jau sen k\u0101 ir atst\u0101ts nov\u0101rt\u0101. L\u012bdz ar to Sinode nebalsos par iesp\u0113ju nodro\u0161in\u0101t ceramus ien\u0101kumus no Valsts un pa\u0161vald\u012bb\u0101m, lai uztur\u0113tu arhitekt\u016bras pieminek\u013cus \u2013 dievnamus, k\u0101 ar\u012b nodro\u0161inot misijas darbu slimn\u012bc\u0101s, cietumos, armij\u0101 u.c. ar v\u0101rdu sakot, garant\u0113ti atvieglojot LELB strukt\u016bru bud\u017eeta ien\u0101kumu da\u013cu.<\/p>\n

* Diskusij\u0101s un l\u0113mumos matem\u0101tiski neskaidra paliks LELB visp\u0113r\u0113jo vajadz\u012bbu (lasi- Virsvaldes) naudas ilgtermi\u0146a izcelsme no draud\u017eu bud\u017eetiem<\/strong>, jo draudzes priek\u0161nieki u.c. sinod\u0101\u013ci \u2013 laji m\u0101jup braucot, p\u0113k\u0161\u0146i atcer\u0113sies, ka v\u0113l bez Virsvaldes vajadz\u012bb\u0101m,<\/em> draudzes val\u017eu tie\u0161\u0101 pien\u0101kum\u0101, kompetenc\u0113 un atbild\u012bb\u0101 paliek dievnamu uztur\u0113\u0161anas un visu draudzes tehnisk\u0101 bud\u017eeta nodro\u0161in\u0101\u0161ana.<\/p>\n

* No iepriek\u0161min\u0113t\u0101 secin\u0101ms, ka paredz\u0113s vispla\u0161\u0101k\u0101 m\u0113roga draudz\u0113m piederos\u0101 nekustam\u0101 \u012bpa\u0161uma izp\u0101rdo\u0161anu, lai tuv\u0101kajos gados nosegtu pl\u0101not\u0101 kred\u012bta (20 milj. latu + procenti)<\/strong> \u201cm\u0101c\u012bt\u0101ju fondam\u201d un Virsvaldes teko\u0161os izdevumus.<\/p>\n

* Atliks divi risin\u0101jumi \u2013 vai nu celt draud\u017eu locek\u013cu oblig\u0101t\u0101s iemaksa<\/strong>s un palielin\u0101t maksu par kazu\u0101lpakalpojumiem <\/strong>(krist\u012bbas, iesv\u0113t\u012bbas, laul\u012bbas utt.). Bet to vis nevar\u0113s, jo norm\u0101li dom\u0101jo\u0161ie saprat\u012bs, ka visa sv\u0113tdarb\u012bbas var veikt dab\u0101 gleznain\u0101s viet\u0101s ar daudz l\u0113t\u0101ku pa\u0161izmaksu, nek\u0101 to pieprasa LELB \u201capar\u0101ts\u201d un d\u0101rgo (nereti pavisam auksto) bazn\u012bcu uztur\u0113\u0161ana.<\/p>\n

* Otrais finansu ieguves risin\u0101jums: steidzami tuv\u0101kajos gados izp\u0101rdot LELB kop\u0113jos un draud\u017eu \u012bpa\u0161umus<\/strong>. Matem\u0101tiski san\u0101k, ka ar\u012b tos, kurus, draudzes mierinot, iepriek\u0161 bija iepl\u0101noti ilgtermi\u0146a iznom\u0101\u0161anai.<\/p>\n

* Un beigu beig\u0101s, kad tas viss b\u016bs izt\u0113r\u0113ts, tad Sinode balsos par iesp\u0113jami \u0101tr\u0101ku LELB pievieno\u0161anu Romas kato\u013cu Bazn\u012bcai <\/strong>(inkorpor\u0113jot nedal\u012bt\u0101 veid\u0101 vai uz ekskluz\u012bva l\u012bguma pamata). Jo \u012bpa\u0161i t\u0101d\u0113\u013c, ka gandr\u012bz visi LELB teolo\u0123iskie, juridiskie un litur\u0123iskie priek\u0161darbi hipnotisk\u0101 mier\u0101 jau \u0161\u0101dai norisei pl\u0101nveid\u012bgi paveikti.<\/p>\n

* Tas, ka Sinodes vairs nenotiek k\u0101d\u0101 no R\u012bgas dievnamiem, aizbildinoties ar vietu un \u0113rt\u012bbu tr\u016bkumu, bet jau 2. reizi p\u0113c k\u0101rtas notiks Pasaules Tirdzniec\u012bbas centr\u0101<\/strong>, kas paties\u012bb\u0101 ir bijus\u012b LPSR<\/strong> PSKP galven\u0101 m\u012btne<\/strong>. \u0160im apst\u0101klim pat var\u0113tu nepiev\u0113rst uzman\u012bbu. Z\u012bm\u012bg\u0101kais \u0161aj\u0101 \u0113k\u0101 lemtais b\u016btu dr\u012bz\u0101k tas, ka varas un finansu resursi p\u0113c Sinodes v\u0113l izteikt\u0101k non\u0101ks tikai da\u017eu cilv\u0113ku rok\u0101s<\/strong>. Da\u017ei sac\u012bs, ka par to nav lieki j\u0101satraucas, bet tikai j\u0101tic un j\u0101uzticas. Bet t\u0101diem es atbild\u0113tu, ka cilv\u0113ki tic\u0113ju\u0161i ar\u012b da\u017eu vairs neeso\u0161u banku sol\u012bjumiem. Un v\u0113l to, ka nav vairs noz\u012bmes ar\u012b sinod\u0113m, jo viss jau t\u0101pat predestion\u0113ts (likten\u012bgi nolemts). Tad san\u0101k, ka katram atliek vien tic\u0113t uz sav\u0101m person\u012bgaj\u0101m sait\u0113m uz Dievu un maz\u0101k uz Bazn\u012bcai (dom\u0101ts lok\u0101l\u0101k- LELB) teolo\u0123iski pied\u0113v\u0113taj\u0101m \u012bpa\u0161\u012bb\u0101m.<\/p>\n

* P\u0113d\u0113jos m\u0113ne\u0161os daudzi m\u0101c\u012bt\u0101ji k\u013c\u016bst gr\u016btsird\u012bg\u0101ki<\/strong> un dom\u012bg\u0101ki, jo vi\u0146u statuss LELB k\u013c\u016bst arvien nestabil\u0101ks, kam\u0113r pien\u0101kumu arvien vair\u0101k. Ar t\u0101diem cilv\u0113kresursiem dievnami paliks tuk\u0161\u0101ki. Jo LELB k\u013c\u016bst arvien vair\u0101k administrat\u012bvi smagn\u0113js un finansi\u0101li d\u0101rgs organisms ar visai neskaidru teolo\u0123isko un litur\u0123isko identit\u0101ti. Bet tas v\u0113l tas maz\u0101kais. Dr\u016bm\u0101kais ir tas, ka cilv\u0113ki m\u016bsu organiz\u0101cij\u0101 (LELB) k\u013c\u016bst bail\u012bg\u0101ki izteikties vai k\u013c\u016bd\u012bties. Samazin\u0101s cilv\u0113c\u012bbas faktors. Domin\u0113 r\u012bkojumi un pav\u0113les. Jo M\u012blest\u012bba, vismaz uz k\u0101du laiku, ir atst\u0101jusi m\u016bs. Diem\u017e\u0113l.<\/p>\n

* Ja kaut kas no t\u0101 visa notiks cit\u0101d\u0101k, nek\u0101 es \u0161eit prognoz\u0113ju, tad dodiet zi\u0146u! Jo man neb\u016bs \u013cauts piedal\u012bties Sinod\u0113 un ietekm\u0113t t\u0101s l\u0113mumus. Vairums sabiedr\u012bbas zina, ka manis atst\u0101din\u0101\u0161anai no m\u0101c\u012bt\u0101ja darba ir pamat\u0101 ekonomiski iemesli. T\u0101 bija b\u016btiski nepiecie\u0161ama, lai es nedr\u012bkst\u0113tu piedal\u012bties Sinod\u0113.<\/p>\n

\u00a9<\/strong> Cit\u0113 un atsaucies dro\u0161i, m\u0101c. valters Kor\u0101lis
\n <\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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