{"id":5350,"date":"2009-11-21T01:41:57","date_gmt":"2009-11-20T22:41:57","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.ticu.lv\/?p=5350"},"modified":"2009-11-21T02:05:16","modified_gmt":"2009-11-20T23:05:16","slug":"bistamas-tendences-latvijas-baznica","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.ticu.lv\/?p=5350","title":{"rendered":"B\u012bstamas tendences Latvijas bazn\u012bc\u0101"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ticu.lv\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/11\/Picture-14.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"http:\/\/www.ticu.lv\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/11\/Picture-14.jpg\" alt=\"Picture 14\" title=\"Picture 14\" width=\"450\" height=\"299\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-5356\" \/><\/a><br \/>\nEmerit\u0113tais pr\u0101vests <strong>Vilis V\u0101rbergs<\/strong> (att\u0113l\u0101) ir viens no visspilgt\u0101kajiem trimdas latvie\u0161u m\u0101c\u012bt\u0101jiem un pasniedz\u0113jiem savulaik LU Teolo\u0123ijas fakult\u0101t\u0113. Pied\u0101v\u0101jam las\u012bt\u0101jiem iepz\u012bties ar vi\u0146a viedokli par \u0161odienas Latvijas bazn\u012bcu.<br \/>\n________________________________________________________<br \/>\n<span style=\"font-family:Verdana;\">Kop\u0161 J\u0101\u0146a Vanaga iev\u0113l\u0113\u0161anas b\u012bskapa amat\u0101 Latvijas Evan\u0123eliski Luteriskaj\u0101 Bazn\u012bc\u0101 v\u0113rojamas b\u012bstamas p\u0101rmai\u0146as, ku\u0157u autors un rosin\u0101t\u0101js ir Vanags.  Patlaban karstas debates ir izrais\u012bjis priek\u0161likums Bazn\u012bcas satversm\u0113 ievietot aizliegumu sievietes ordin\u0113t m\u0101c\u012btaja amat\u0101.  L\u012bdz \u0161im neordin\u0113t sievietes bija tikai Vanaga person\u012bga izv\u0113le. Ievel\u0113\u0161anas laik\u0101 vi\u0146\u0161 pat apsol\u012bja, ja b\u016btu cits latvie\u0161u b\u012bskaps, kas v\u0113l\u0113tos sievietes ordin\u0113t, vi\u0146\u0161 to neliegtu.  Bet nu ar\u012b \u0161o Vanaga  person\u012bgo aizspriedumu grib institucionaliz\u0113t.  T\u0101 tas jau ir noticis ar citiem vi\u0146a person\u012bgiem ieskatiem. Lietas ir aizg\u0101ju\u0161as tik t\u0101lu, ka pace\u013cas noipietni jaut\u0101jumi vai Latvijas Bazn\u012bca vairs ir saucama par luterisku.<br \/>\n\t\u0160is priek\u0161likums konstitucion\u0101li aizliegt sievie\u0161u ordin\u0113\u0161anu bija darba k\u0101rt\u0101 m\u0101c\u012bt\u0101ju konferenc\u0113 R\u012bg\u0101 L\u0101cpl\u0113\u0161u dien\u0101, 11. novembr\u012b.  Vai tas bija pl\u0101nots \u017eests ar\u012b pret L\u0101\u010dpl\u0113\u0161a Ka\u0157a Orde\u0146a Kavalier\u0113m?   Vismaz viena t\u0101da ta\u010du bija.  Bet v\u0113sture jau nav m\u016bslaiku bazn\u012bct\u0113vu stipr\u0101 puse un konferences dienas izv\u0113le var\u0113tu b\u016bt tikai nepat\u012bkama sagad\u012b\u0161an\u0101s.<br \/>\n\tKad evan\u0123eliste Ieva Zeiferte konferenc\u0113 nols\u012bja Luter\u0101\u0146u Pasaules Feder\u0101cijas (ku\u0157as loceki ir ar\u012b Latvijas Bazn\u012bca) argumentus par sievie\u0161u ordin\u0101ciju, da\u017ei m\u0101c\u012bt\u0101ji atzin\u0101s, ka tos nekad nav zin\u0101ju\u0161i un rosin\u0101ja ar tiem iepaz\u012bstin\u0101t m\u0101c\u012bt\u0101jus vis\u0101s pr\u0101vestu iecirk\u0146u san\u0101ksm\u0113s. Balsojums nebija p\u0101rliecino\u0161s \u2013 tikai 39 par un 32 pret, kam\u0113r 11 attur\u0113j\u0101s. Nav jau viegli balost pret to, kas tev maks\u0101 algu \u2026 Tas noz\u012bm\u0113, ka sievie\u0161u ordin\u0113\u0161anas jaut\u0101jumu v\u0113l j\u0101turpina debat\u0113t lidz pat Latvijas Bazn\u012bcassinodei R\u012bg\u0101 2010. gada 3.-4. j\u016bnij\u0101.<br \/>\n\tArchib\u012bskpas E.E. Roz\u012btis aicina visus  Latvijas Bazn\u012bcas \u0101rpus Latvijas m\u0101c\u012bt\u0101jus un draud\u017eu locek\u013cus p\u0113c iesp\u0113jas akt\u012bvi piedal\u012bties \u0161aj\u0101s debat\u0113s. Atkl\u0101t\u0101 v\u0113stul\u0113 11. novembr\u012b vi\u0146\u0161 raksta: \u201eSvar\u012bgi b\u016bs, ka pl\u012bdzam, lai \u0161\u012b diskusija patiesi sasniegtu ikvienu draudzes locekli Latvij\u0101, ikkvienu draudzi, t\u0101s valdi un padomi, lai t\u0101 intens\u012bvi risin\u0101tos pr\u0101vestu iecirk\u0146os un g\u016btu atbalsi Latvijas novadu un visas Latvijas pres\u0113 un publik\u0101cij\u0101s.\u201c<br \/>\n\tBet \u0161is jau ir tikai p\u0113d\u0113jais Vanaga ideju institucionaliz\u0113\u0161anas pas\u0101kums. Citi ir jau p\u0101rv\u0113rtu\u0161\u012b Latvijas Evan\u0123eliski Luterisko Bazn\u012bcu gandr\u012bz l\u012bdz nepaz\u012b\u0161anai. Ir nopietni jaut\u0101jumi par Latvijas bazn\u012bcas eva\u0146\u0123\u0113lisko un luterisko identit\u0101ti.\u2028\tVai attiec\u012bb\u0101s ar Dievu ir vajadz\u012bgs starpnieks \u2013 bazn\u012bca?\u2028Luter\u0101\u0146i (pret\u0113ji kato\u013ciem) uzskata, ka starpnieks nav vajadz\u012bgs, t\u0101pat, k\u0101 nav vajadz\u012bgi prieste\u0157i. K\u0101d\u0113\u013c Latvij\u0101 veidojas izteikti hierarchiska bazn\u012bca ar piram\u012bdai l\u012bdz\u012bgu uzb\u016bvi p\u0113c p\u0101vesta bazn\u012bcas parauga (ieskaitot amatt\u0113rpu pirk\u0161anu Rom\u0101!) \u2013 piedev\u0101m v\u0113l ar \u012bpa\u0161i kultiv\u0113tu hierarchisko bij\u012bbu un paklaus\u012bbu? K\u0101d\u0113\u013c vairs nav nek\u0101das teik\u0161anas draudz\u0113m, sinodei (form\u0101li gan skait\u0101s) un draudz\u0113m neviens \u201eno aug\u0161as\u201d vairs neatskait\u0101s? Vai draudzes eksist\u0113 virsvaldes un hierarhijas d\u0113\u013c? Ar ko hierarhisk\u0101, episkop\u0101l\u0101 sist\u0113ma b\u016btu sv\u0113t\u0101ka, lab\u0101ka, biblisk\u0101ka?<br \/>\n\tK\u0101d\u0113\u013c tiek atmesta biblisk\u0101 visp\u0101r\u0113j\u0101s priester\u012bbas m\u0101c\u012bba, t\u0101s viet\u0101 veidojot hierarchisko? At\u013caujiet pasmaid\u012bt \u2013 luter\u0101\u0146iem tagad ir katerdr\u0101les un prokatedr\u0101les, diac\u0113zes, b\u012bskapi un b\u012bskapu kr\u0113sli&#8230; No kurienes gan \u0161\u012b terminolo\u0123ija, \u0161is bazn\u012bcas modelis?!\u2028Vai Kristus sekot\u0101ji var b\u016bt kungi un nemald\u012bgas hierarhiskas autorit\u0101tes? Vai tad J\u0113zus par saviem sekot\u0101jiem neatz\u012bst tikai kalpus? Vai tad m\u0113s visi (bez iz\u0146\u0113mumiem) Dieva priek\u0161\u0101 neesam principi\u0101li vien\u0101d\u0101s poz\u012bcij\u0101s?\u2028\tLuterisk\u0101s apliec\u012bbas saka: <\/span><span style=\"font-family:Verdana;\"><em>\u201cM\u0113s ticam, m\u0101c\u0101m un apliecin\u0101m, ka vien\u012bg\u0101 norma un m\u0113raukla, p\u0113c kuras j\u0101izv\u0113rt\u0113 un j\u0101izties\u0101 visas m\u0101c\u012bbas, k\u0101 ar\u012b m\u0101c\u012bt\u0101ji, ir tikai un vien\u012bgi Vec\u0101s un Jaun\u0101s Der\u012bbas pravie\u0161u un apustu\u013cu raksti\u201d<\/em><\/span><span style=\"font-family:Verdana;\"> (Konkordijas Gr\u0101mata, KF, Epitome, I). Vai Sv. Raksti patie\u0161\u0101m ir v\u0113l vien\u012bg\u0101 norma un m\u0113raukla? \u2028\tLuter\u0101\u0146i m\u0101ca, ka Kristus persona un darbs ir vien\u012bgais pamats un l\u012bdzeklis cilv\u0113ka pest\u012b\u0161anai. Vai praktisk\u0101s norises un p\u0113d\u0113j\u0101 laika pav\u0113rsieni luter\u0101\u0146u bazn\u012bc\u0101 neliecina par pret\u0113jo?\u2028\tUz biblisk\u0101 pamata par bausl\u012bbu un eva\u0146\u0123\u0113liju, k\u0101 ar\u012b m\u0101c\u012bbu par gr\u0113ku luterisk\u0101s apliec\u012bbas skaidri pasv\u012btro m\u0101c\u012bbu (galveno artikulu) par attaisno\u0161anu tic\u012bb\u0101: <\/span><span style=\"font-family:Verdana;\"><em>\u201cNo \u0161\u0101 artikula ne maz\u0101k\u0101 m\u0113r\u0101 nedr\u012bkst novirz\u012bties vai atk\u0101pties, kaut vai debesis un zeme sabruktu un viss cits, kas nav palieko\u0161s \u2013 &#8220;..jo nav neviens cits v\u0101rds zem debess cilv\u0113kiem dots, kur\u0101 mums lemta pest\u012b\u0161ana,&#8221; saka P\u0113teris (Ap. d. 4:12). &#8220;..ar vi\u0146a br\u016bc\u0113m m\u0113s esam dziedin\u0101ti.&#8221; (Jes. 53:5) Un uz \u0161\u0101 artikula balst\u0101s viss, ko m\u0113s m\u0101c\u0101m un dar\u0101m .. T\u0101p\u0113c mums par to j\u0101b\u016bt dro\u0161iem un m\u0113s nedr\u012bkstam \u0161aub\u012bties, cit\u0101di viss ir pagalam.\u201d<\/em><\/span><span style=\"font-family:Verdana;\"> (KG. \u0160A, II,1:5)\u2028\tVai arvien vair\u0101k netiek m\u0101c\u012bta reli\u0123iozit\u0101te \u2013 kulti, ritu\u0101li, darb\u012bbas, k\u0101 ar\u012b darbi? K\u0101d\u0113\u013c luter\u0101\u0146i s\u0101ku\u0161i kop\u0113t kato\u013cu un anglik\u0101\u0146u augst\u0101s litur\u0123ijas, celebr\u0113jot misas, ejot procesij\u0101s, metot teatr\u0101lus krustus, k\u016bpinot v\u012braku, klanoties un goroties? K\u0101p\u0113c dievkalpojumi tiek p\u0101rv\u0113rsti par katolisk\u0101m upurcermonij\u0101m un piln\u012bgi nesaprotam\u0101m priesteru mist\u0113riju izr\u0101d\u0113m? K\u0101d\u0113\u013c visa \u0161\u012b m\u0101\u017eo\u0161an\u0101s atdarinot kato\u013cus? Kas tam pamat\u0101? Luterisk\u0101s apliec\u012bbas saka skaidri: <\/span><span style=\"font-family:Verdana;\"><em>\u201cMise j\u0101uzskata par liel\u0101ko un briesm\u012bg\u0101ko apgr\u0113c\u012bbu .., jo t\u0101 non\u0101k tie\u0161\u0101 un kras\u0101 pretrun\u0101 ar iepriek\u0161 min\u0113to galveno artikulu\u201d.\u2028 Tradicion\u0101lais luter\u0101\u0146u dievkalpojums ir cien\u012bgs sav\u0101 lakonism\u0101 un tie\u0161um\u0101, tur nav nek\u0101 lieka. Dievs run\u0101 caur V\u0101rdu un sakramentu, m\u0113s atbildam ar dziesm\u0101m un l\u016bg\u0161an\u0101m. Viss par lietu.\u2028\tVai nav likumsakar\u012bgi, ka m\u016bsu bazn\u012bc\u0101 ievie\u0161as ne tikai kato\u013cu priesteru t\u0113rpi un priesteru gredzeni, bet ar\u012b tiek atjaunota m\u0101c\u012bba par purgatoriju, k\u0101 ar\u012b s\u0101k atjaunoties sv\u0113tce\u013cojumu, sv\u0113to kulta, krusta ce\u013cu, sv\u0113to relikviju godin\u0101\u0161anas un gr\u0113ku atlaidu trad\u012bcijas, kuras eva\u0146\u0123\u0113liski luterisk\u0101 tic\u012bba vis\u0101 pasaul\u0113 skaidri noraida k\u0101 pag\u0101niskas un m\u0101\u0146tic\u012bgas?<br \/>\n\tPar katru no \u0161\u012bm d\u012bvainaj\u0101m liet\u0101m skaidri izsak\u0101s Konkordijas Gramat\u0101 sakopotie luter\u0101\u0146u apliec\u012bbas raksti \u2013 piem., par sv\u0113tajiem: <\/em><\/span><span style=\"font-family:Verdana;\"><em>\u201cAr\u012b sv\u0113to piesauk\u0161ana .. ir pret pirmo galveno artikulu un grauj Kristus atzi\u0146u, vai ar\u012b par p\u0101vesta varu un autorit\u0101ti: <\/em><\/span><span style=\"font-family:Verdana;\"><em>\u201cP\u0101vests nav jure divino jeb p\u0113c Dieva likuma visas kristiet\u012bbas galva\u201d.\u2028<br \/>\nK\u0101p\u0113c Latvijas bazn\u012bcas teolo\u0123ija (ar\u012b jau praktiskaj\u0101s izpausm\u0113s) k\u013c\u016bst tik izteikti katoliska? K\u0101p\u0113c praktiski visa argument\u0101cija iet atpaka\u013c uz laiku pirms reform\u0101cijas \u2014 it k\u0101 reform\u0101cija b\u016btu bijusi smaga un tra\u0123iska k\u013c\u016bda?\u2028\tVai nav liela augstpr\u0101t\u012bba p\u0101r\u0146emt piln\u012bgi citas konfesijas vai ar\u012b \u013coti specifisku un \u0161auri ievirz\u012btu Amerikas bazn\u012bcu (Muzuri sinodes) mode\u013cus, kur Latvijas  Bazn\u012bcai  ir sava v\u0113sture, savas saites, trad\u012bcijas? Luterisk\u0101 m\u0101c\u012bba praks\u0113 Latvijas  kult\u016brv\u0113sturiskaj\u0101 vid\u0113 ir izg\u0101jusi garu att\u012bst\u012bbas ce\u013cu un sasniegusi sol\u012bdu briedumu.<br \/>\n\tVai Latvijas Bazn\u012bcas vad\u012bba neskat\u0101s Romas kato\u013cu virzien\u0101 ar nostal\u0123isku skatu k\u0101 uz M\u0101ti bazn\u012bcu, kur\u0101 vajadz\u0113tu atgriezties?\u2028\tUn vai tas galu gal\u0101 neskar latvie\u0161u dz\u012bves, latvie\u0161u  pest\u012b\u0161anas pamatjaut\u0101jumus? Nav jau vienalga, kam un k\u0101 ticam&#8230;\u2028\tJaut\u0101jumi, jaut\u0101jumi. \u013boti daudz jaut\u0101jumu&#8230;.<br \/>\n\t\u0160ie jaut\u0101jumi gandr\u012bz burtiskip\u0101r\u0146emti no k\u0101das draduzes Lavij\u0101 apk\u0101rtraksta. Tur ar\u012b m\u0101c\u012bt\u0101js aicina \u201ejaut\u0101t un dom\u0101t,\u2028jaut\u0101t un mekl\u0113t,jaut\u0101t un nesamierin\u0101ties ar \u0161aur\u0101m \u0161\u012b br\u012b\u017ea atbild\u0113m.\u201c<br \/>\n\tIr \u013coti z\u012bm\u012bgi, kas visas p\u0101rmai\u0146as, kas pace\u013c aug\u0161min\u0113tos jaut\u0101jumus, ir s\u0101ku\u0161\u0101s tikai p\u0113c J\u0101\u0146a Vanaga iev\u0113l\u0113\u0161anas augstaj\u0101 amat\u0101 un t\u0101 amata \u013coti autoritat\u012bvas pild\u012b\u0161anas. J\u0101min ar\u012b tas, ka ne vairs draudzes, bet Bazn\u012bcas virsvalde maks\u0101 m\u0101c\u012bt\u0101jiem algas. T\u0101p\u0113c ar\u012b tikai retais iedro\u0161in\u0101s pacelt balsi pret Vanaga v\u0113lm\u0113m.<br \/>\nUn tom\u0113r vismaz da\u017ei ir. Lai Dievs dod, ka to skaits vairosies.<br \/>\n\u2014 <strong>Vilis V\u0101rsbergs\u2028<\/strong><\/em><\/span><br \/>\nFoto: http:\/\/foto.lu.lv\/arhiivs<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Emerit\u0113tais pr\u0101vests Vilis V\u0101rbergs (att\u0113l\u0101) ir viens no visspilgt\u0101kajiem trimdas latvie\u0161u m\u0101c\u012bt\u0101jiem un pasniedz\u0113jiem savulaik LU Teolo\u0123ijas fakult\u0101t\u0113. Pied\u0101v\u0101jam las\u012bt\u0101jiem iepz\u012bties ar vi\u0146a viedokli par \u0161odienas Latvijas bazn\u012bcu. ________________________________________________________ Kop\u0161 J\u0101\u0146a Vanaga iev\u0113l\u0113\u0161anas b\u012bskapa amat\u0101 Latvijas Evan\u0123eliski Luteriskaj\u0101 Bazn\u012bc\u0101 v\u0113rojamas &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ticu.lv\/?p=5350\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"ngg_post_thumbnail":0,"spay_email":""},"categories":[1,13,8,14,2],"tags":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.ticu.lv\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5350"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.ticu.lv\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.ticu.lv\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.ticu.lv\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.ticu.lv\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=5350"}],"version-history":[{"count":14,"href":"https:\/\/www.ticu.lv\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5350\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":5365,"href":"https:\/\/www.ticu.lv\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5350\/revisions\/5365"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.ticu.lv\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=5350"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.ticu.lv\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=5350"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.ticu.lv\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=5350"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}